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    Jester Teller
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      This video brings up some excellent points against the concept of heaven as it’s presented in the bible. I’ve thought of some of these myself.

      The Problems With Paradise: 7 Reasons Why Heaven Fails

      Well, Mechtild, what counterpoints do you have for this? Also, can we fix the concept of heaven? Should people exist for eternity?

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      Mechtild
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        First of all, he gets some things wrong. It’s the angels that constantly praise God. There is no class system, and people will have things to do like roles in the new Earth. You can still make choices, but you will not sin making them. You will not be perfect just because you are free of sin. You can still improve yourself. It does not say you won’t fail at things. It just wouldn’t cause you to sin or suffer.

        He also complains about evil existing, but then complains that in Heaven we will be robots with no free will. Which is it? Does he want God to do something about evil or not? We can have free will without suffering in Heaven because we have went through the deciding process, and we have experienced the bad things so we have a proper appreciation of perfect goodness.

        He’s making a lot of assumptions about something we can’t really comprehend as we are now. Looking at things from an earthly perspective is biased. The best point he has is about how some of our loved ones won’t make it yet there will still be no sadness. However, let me point out that at that point our perspective and knowledge will be greatly expanded. That may mean that we can accept such things and not suffer over it.

        His argument against sacrificing for the promise of Heaven falls flat. If there is a God then doing His will is the most important thing. If there is not a God then everything will eventually fade away anyways so why does it matter how you spend your time? Without God there would just be personal opinion about what life means. It would have no inherent meaning.

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